Outcomes of Scribe Program
Not only has EPScribes contributed to the efficiency of the providers they work with and given the scribes an incredible opportunity to witness the clinical environment, but its members have gone on to pursue their future careers in many professional programs. Following are some of the programs in which former EPScribes have been accepted and are actively attending:
- University of Arizona School of Medicine - Tucson & Phoenix Locations
- Midwestern University School of Osteopathic Medicine, PA Program, and Cardiovascular Science/Perfusion Program
- AT Still University Physician Assistants Program
- Creighton School of Medicine
- Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai
- Keck School of Medicine of USC
- Ohio State University School of Medicine
- Touro University - Nevada & California Physician Assitants Program
Several EPScribes have also pursued careers in various nursing facilities throughout the valley
Sara S (PA Student):
When I started scribing I originally thought it would be a good opportunity to see if I was truly interest in the medical field. At that moment I did not realize how great of an impact it would have on my PA school career. Scribing was the absolute best thing to prepare me for school. It allowed me to work side by side and be in the mind of a provider and see firsthand how to care for patients and perform a proper history and physical. I recall our first standardized patient encounter at school. It was 2 months after starting and everyone was very stressed out about this experience. I knew going in scribing was going to provide me an advantage but I didn’t realize how much of an advantage at that time. I received a 99.8 percent on that encounter and the first words out of the graders mouth was “were you a scribe before this?” Scribes, especially EPSscribes, start school with an advantage over other students that continues throughout your educational career. During my time scribing I was provided with vast knowledge on medical terminology, diagnostic testing, and patient care that no other job would provide outside of being an actual doctor, PA, or NP. During school I use knowledge that I learned from scribing on a daily basis. I am forever grateful for the opportunity and experience Dr. Vahedian and EPScribes provided.
Mark Z (Med Student):
I worked as a scribe for a year before starting my first year at the Keck School of Medicine of USC. After a few months, it's obvious to me how helpful scribing was: not only are the attending physicians and other students impressed with my patient presentations and interviewing skills, but I had developed an extensive clinical vocabulary that enables me to NOT have to constantly look up and memorize medical terminology. In medical school, people expect you to absorb a ton of information in a short amount of time. The exposure that I had in the emergency department definitely gives me a huge advantage! Thank you, Dr. Vahedian, for the opportunity, Perhaps I'll see you when I start my residency in a few years :)!
I hope you're doing well!
Luke (Med Student), short email sent to Dr. Vahedian:
Hey Dr. Vahedian,
I wanted to send you a quick note to thank you for your continued mentorship/guidance. My experiences as a scribe have quickly proven valuable even in my first block of medical school! Being able to make connections with material covered in class to what I have seen at work has provided an incredible advantage. I'm having a blast here in NY (Passed my first block! woohoo haha). Shortly I will begin to look into research/shadowing opportunities in the Emergency Department here at Mount Sinai! Hope all is well in Phoenix, with EPS and EPScribes!. Once again THANK YOU!
Sam C, short email sent to Dr. Vahedian:
I hope all is well with you and the family. Just wanted to thank you for everything you did for me as a scribe and all you do for the program. I did not get a chance to talk to you in person before I left and started school, so an email will have to do lol
But In all seriousness, thank you for everything you do and for all the guidance you provide.
Scribing definitely made starting PA school a tad bit easier. Some things click just a little faster because I am able to make the connections.
You will be proud to know that I scored a 147 out of 149 on our first mock pt encounter, during which we were to get a full history and do a full physical exam on a pt with the proctor present. I literally thought of all the encounters I was a part of as a scribe and made it my own and knew what it took to make a good impression. It was so nerve wrecking to be on the other end but sooooo exciting at the same time!! The proctor even said that I was way above where they want or expect us to be and I just need some fine tuning.
I won't take too much more of your time, but please know I will be forever grateful for my time as a scribe and the personal growth that resulted from it.
Vivian (PA Student):
What has it been like to be a scribe? Well first, I had the opportunity to meet and work side-by-side amazing doctors, PAs, nurses, techs, HUCs, you name it. I found that every time I thought I would tire of explaining my awesome scribe-tastic duties, I didn't. Every time I thought I'd be embarrassed by my longer- than-average period of employment, I wasn't (the look on the new-hire faces after I told them I've been scribing for 3 years = PRICELESS). Why? Because being a scribe has taught me so much more than many textbooks have thus far. I learned the art of multi-tasking (unfortunately, the world of Emergency Medicine DID NOT stop while I finished my HPI), the importance of asking intellectual questions vs performing a Google search, the various charting preferences and terminology which inevitably showed me how different phrases can be used to explain the same condition... just to name a few. No two shifts were the same but each and every one was exciting, allowing me to go home with something new to think about.
This job truly is one of a kind and I cannot imagine ever continuing my education without having had this opportunity. You're not "living the dream" as a scribe, but you're working next to providers that are and that show you the hard work you're putting in now, will be worth it later. It has been a fun, exclusive, and educational journey that I am grateful to have partaken in. Looking back through my notebook from when I first started 3 years ago, and seeing my cute abdominal wall drawing sectioned off into abbreviated quadrants, I realized how much I've since learned....And I can say, without a doubt, I learned it all from the best.
Lindsay (Med Student):
Having worked as a scribe with EPS for approximately three years prior to starting medical school at Midwestern University I can say the experience greatly helped in not only my application process, but has been useful during my first year in school. Throughout my application and interview process I found the exposure I was fortunate to have through the program gave me additional talking points beyond my academic and volunteer activities. This allowed me to stand out from other applicants, and also provided me with a better understanding of the medical field than many other pre-med students who have spent most of their time in the classroom or lab settings. Once in medical school, my scribe experiences gave me a background to relate course topics to the clinical environment. Having also become proficient with the medical terminology allowed me to spend my time focused on concepts being explained rather than having to learn both the concept and terminology as my peers did. In addition to my familiarity with medical terminology, the scribe program gave me the opportunity to write many patient histories, which we had to do beginning in our first quarter of medical school. While many others struggled with the task, having performed this many times during my years with EPS it was second nature for me. Much of what I learned as a scribe will have greater significance during my later years of med school involving more clinical application, but for now I know that even during this earlier part of my education the scribe program has offered me a base of clinical knowledge with which I can relate concepts I am learning in the classroom.
Adnan (Med Student):
"Remember George W. Bush? He was still president when I began scribing. I scribed for three and a half years before I hung up my clipboard and called it quits. I left for medical school with an appreciation for all kinds of things. I learned how something could be abnormally normal. I learned how something else could be regularly irregular. The whats and whys and what have you were unknown to me -- the answers to those questions came later. More importantly, I learned the way in which information is collected, recorded and conveyed using the diverse language of medicine. It made doing so in our school's clinical medicine course more comfortable and it also made understanding clinical vignettes on exams simpler.
Read: your grades could see a boost if you were a scribe before medical school. Actual results may vary.
The bottom line is, you will be better off for having done this. You will be introduced to everything backwards: diseases without knowing their names, medicines commonly prescribed without knowing their purpose and procedures without even knowing when and when not to perform them, let alone how. Medical school will reverse this. You will remember fondly how you came to know these things years ago and you will know the whats and whys when you get there. Perhaps you'll come back during your summer off the way I did. You'll do so because you will know that there isn't another experience quite like it. I owe a great deal to EPS, its team of providers, the staff in these emergency departments and everyone else who taught me what a joy it can be to care for people. They were instrumental in helping me to achieve an acceptance into school. And I won't soon forget the crucial exposure to medicine they gave me that I needed in order to be successful throughout."
Torri (Med Student):
When I first was hired as a scribe I didn't realize the impact that it would have on the beginning of my medical education. Not only did it give me an amazing personal perspective into the world of medicine, it showed me how to work and communicate with physicians as well as other members of a patient care team. During interviews schools were very interested in the job of a scribe and it allowed me to talk about why I want to enter the medical profession as a physician. Now that I am three months into the first year of medical school, I feel that I have an advantage when dealing with patients. From day one, we were in the hospital interviewing patients and obtaining the history of present illness, review of systems, and social/medical/surgical histories. Without the prior experience of being a scribe I know that I would have felt the same frustrations as many of my classmates who had never learned what these things were. Instead, I am able to have fun with these interactions and better understand much of what I am asking and why.
Chad (Med Student), short email sent to Dr. Vahedian:
Started my first MSIII rotation this month…
In only the 2nd week my preceptor physician pulled me aside to say that my charting exceeds that of many physicians he’s met. Many thanks to EPS for the training and for giving me this edge.
Terry (Med Student), short email sent to Dr. Vahedian:
I can't tell you how much scribing helped me. I have such a huge advantage when it comes to anything clinical. I already know the risk factors we are looking for and how to direct my interview to fit their disease. I am also very comfortable with the entire process from talking to patients, to working through a differential diagnoses and then writing up my findings. I have also found that as I learn the basic science behind disease I find myself relating what I am learning to the patients I have seen and it makes everything easier to remember and understand. I know I have said it before, but scribing was one of the most amazing experiences I ever had and I really think it was a formative 2 years for the rest of my career/life. Thx for the opportunity!!! Not to mention what I learned and was able to share was undoubtably a large factor in my acceptance to multiple medical schools!